[Dev] Neo Nyzul Isle

Whats not mentioned is the 100%+ drop rate. (6 KIs + whatever the boss drops)

The luck/cockblock factor, 25% win or whatever you want to call it is better then 80%+ win and a <5% drop rate like most SE events.

Most groups that fail at NN never took the time to build a good SP. My group went from a 20% win rate to close to 100% over the course of 50 some runs. Our recent losses have been more from our buyers then anything else. (JP player randomly hitting lamps etc)

What's a SP?

I saw this purple thread and thought there was some new information, instead I got some senseless drama, I dont know whether to be disappointed or amused o.O

Static party

Well said.

How about just implement the old system into the new area, its a win win situation for the CHEATERS, hardcore and casual!. Problems *** fixed!.

There is a huge difference between possibility and reasonable chance.

Just like there's a huge difference between difficulty and obnoxious mechanics.

Actually anyone consistently winning NeoNyzul likes the new system much much better than the old one. Keep trying though.

Fillmode and Dat swap much lately?.

I win pretty consistently, and I despise the new system. 5 jumps would have been too easy, but when a run can hinge not on skill or coordinate, but mere luck then there is a problem.

The most annoying thing I find is the delay between lamps, takes forever. The first floor shouldn't be included in the time spent, too. I also like the idea of instant jumps, perhaps as something you can set manually before the run.

Let down by the thread, I thought it was going to be a handy update or info, but looks like Lamp Rage and you canz only win by cheatz with some constructive ideas instead. Ah well. The things I do see that could stand to be fixed:

1. Time in the lobby not counting towards objective. Change the entry order sequence. Require that it select the objective floor FIRST, then run a prep time, just like Legion say 1-2 minutes or prep time at best. And to penalize people that take their sweet time, if you don't select an objective when you enter to initiate the prep time after say a minute, it could randomly select 20/40/60/80/100 then begin the prep time (BALANCE lol).

2. Reduce the lamp delay time on "same time" Ideally this usually just takes coordination to do right but on those floors, but in the case that a lamp is missed you have to sit on the last lamps cool down timer.

3. Give Linen Pouches as astarium reward options for the Lower floors. This gives the event longer interest, or a reason to attempt the lower floor runs.

4. Get Rid of Ancient Goobbue on floors. Just...f that guy.

Other than that, I don't see any other reason to make changes. Yes, people will cheat, that's the nature of video games since they began. Sure, they need to streamline the luck/strategy factor, but that doesn't take away the fact that you CAN win w/out cheating, maybe just not as much as you'd like to. This is where a good static group and teamwork come into play like taint stated(And yes I do have NN gear and no I don't win every time and it's sad that you even have to say that you didn't cheat, and even if you do people still say you do anyway....lol) Despite the frustrations, the folks raging obviously haven't stopped trying to do Neo Nyzul.

Lose much lately?
btw I just said I don't use fillmode. Reading Comprehension ftw.


5 jumps would be way way wayyyyy too easy. My group had three people d/c just as we were in enter cutscene a couple weeks ago, and we still made 5 jumps before exiting with 15 minutes left (no embrava, war/sam/sch)
And all the things in your 2nd para would apply to the old system as well.

Blah Double post sorry

Instead of having to go up 100 floors with a random number generator, why not make it 15 floors with a boss on every 3rd? That'd remove a decent amount of the luck involved

I said 5 would be too easy, I think something like 20 jumps would be fairer. I'd just rather have a system that wasn't so dependent on luck, where if I failed it'd be down to my group actions , and not just tremendously bad floor jumps.

The 2nd paragraph was just outlining things that annoy me about nyzul in general, but I feel they're more glaring in neo-nyzul.

wtf is this to do with reading comprehension?, I quote exactly what you said and if you had said something about fillmode in your previous post then it have nothing to do with my reading comprehension. you know why i bolded that word consistency?, we all playing the same game here. the RNG is working against everyone here if you don't use any kind of cheat. You do know what that word consistency mean right?, Hint not getting the good RNG a few times.

I seriously have no idea as to what point you were trying to make.

10-50 floor jumps at random would be pimp...

provoke + fillmode!

Who talks like that?

You're screwing one boss. It would actually be 20 floors with a boss on every 4th.

Maybe make it possible for somebody like me that choose's not to use 3rd pt tools on PC or play on Xbox. I should be able to win without any of that. Kinda *** I will never have a chance to win this because I play the game with the tools given to me and those alone. But whatever, gear and windower ***don't make you a great player, I'll still get ***done with my 6 macro lines in full screen mode. And I'm not saying that stuff is cheating or nothin, use it if you want /shrug. This event is just basically *** for ppl like me.

Me. Wanna fight about it?

Should say "come at me bro" or it's not the same!

Boss every 3 floors with 15 floors total = 5 bosses
Boss every 4 floors with 20 floors total = 5 bosses

Math.

This is probably not an option since it'd be very different, but I'd rather if the climbing "challenge" was reduced and the boss difficulty was increased. If they could balance it so that we all could make it to the final boss reliably but have only a ~25% chance of actually winning, that would be pretty cool, imho. Then player skill and gear would have more of an influence and there would be less RNG ***.

What are reqs to enter Neo Nyzul?

The same requirements as regular Nyzul.