Person A doesn't buy the product/doesn't use it: The person gets no entertainment value, the product gets no word of mouth, there is no chance of auxiliary income (from merchandise, other media, etc)
Person B pirates the product and uses it: The person gets entertained, if they like it they will likely recommend it to other people and give it some publicity, if they like it enough they may buy merchandise related to the product.
That's my basic stand on Piracy.
I'm just wondering what peoples basic stand on piracy is.
Piracy, Is It Truly Wrong?
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Piracy, Is it truly wrong?
I really don't see how it is illegal. I mean calling it intellectual theft is a stretch to say the least. Provided you aren't profitting on it of course.
People have copied and shared whatever all thru history. But just cause it is super easy now it is finally being dealt with lol. Besides who wants to buy a CD or songs without knowing how much you like them first?
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Basically, this is how I feel about it.
However, if done correctly, you can deter pirates pretty easily. Most PC games have their online modes disabled through pirating (Though oddly enough, Split/Second still works online with a pirated copy), and if the game has a good online mode, that would still warrant a purchase even if you are an avid pirate. Some companies make games exclusively for consoles (Which is still pirate-able, though much harder). Most casual pirates won't bother with these and just buy the game anyway. I buy console games, and I'll buy a game I want to play online. Single player games (Unless I'm supporting a new franchise) will be pirated. I was thinking of buying Mafia II, and I pirated it instead, realised I really disliked it and saved some money that way.
I do like to play COR every now and then.
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I pretty much agree with all of that, but I'll also buy games I'm fairly certain I'll like.
Most of the newer games coming out nowadays only warrant one playthrough, then you just go back and sell them at Gamestop for a 30-dollar loss. Not worth it for 8 hours of gameplay. Singularity, DMC4, Bayonetta, Metro 2033, Crackdown 2 are just some of the games I've bought recently that don't seem like they earned even half their selling price.
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Metallica thinks its wrong...
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My general method is to pirate something as sort of a free rental. If I like it, I'll gladly fork over the money for a legitimate copy; I want to support it, after all. If not, then whatever. From a more cynical view, it's really rental companies I'm personally in the business of harming. o.o;
Last game I bought was SC2 because I wanted to play it online. It was ok, but I don't think it was worth £45.99 especially seeing as it essentially had 1/3 of the campaign.
Before that I bought Assassins creed II, and I don't regret that. Another thing is, any game on a past console rarely, if ever, generates profit for the company that made it. If you were to buy it from a video game store, it would likely be a used copy and thus would only put money in the pockets of that company, rather than the creators.
In said situation, I see nothing wrong with just torrenting the game. Siren.Enternius said: Another thing is, any game on a past console rarely, if ever, generates profit for the company that made it. If you were to buy it from a video game store, it would likely be a used copy and thus would only put money in the pockets of that company, rather than the creators. In said situation, I see nothing wrong with just torrenting the game. Ifrit.Keeria said: My general method is to pirate something as sort of a free rental. If I like it, I'll gladly fork over the money for a legitimate copy; I want to support it, after all. If not, then whatever. From a more cynical view, it's really rental companies I'm personally in the business of harming. o.o; I dont pirate, I buy my things. I got the latest X-Men 2 dvd...
I would never buy a game on an easily emulatable (*** you it's a word) console.
My dad owns a video game store, and so many people come in to buy SNES and Megadrive game, I just don't get it. Even though I have an emulator I love playing on snes rpgs on the snes.
Ramuh.Dasva said: Even though I have an emulator I love playing on snes rpgs on the snes. Same, but I'd never buy a SNES game from a shop anymore. I mean I've got a ton of the old consoles, but the only old console I buy for is my Dreamcast because it's got no good emulators :/ Ramuh.Dasva said: Even though I have an emulator I love playing on snes rpgs on the snes. I love my laptop for innumerable reasons, but the fact that I have a USB Super Nintendo controller and a SNES emulator with 2000 games for it makes it so much better than playing the games an old cartridge console.
Ramuh.Yarly said: I do like to play COR every now and then. Shiva.Flionheart said: Same, but I'd never buy a SNES game from a shop anymore. I mean I've got a ton of the old consoles, but the only old console I buy for is my Dreamcast because it's got no good emulators :/ Dreamcast was the best console ever. I need to find an emulator for Tech Romancer. Loved that game. Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Same, but I'd never buy a SNES game from a shop anymore. I mean I've got a ton of the old consoles, but the only old console I buy for is my Dreamcast because it's got no good emulators :/ Dreamcast was the best console ever. I need to find an emulator for Tech Romancer. Loved that game. It's in my top 3 consoles easily. Shenmue 1&2, Power Stone, Sonic Adventure 1&2, Skies of Arcadia, Chu Chu Rocket, Phantasy Star, Jet set radio, Ikaruga, Grandia 2, Crazy Taxi etc etc I grew up on the snes alot so I loved. Well nes too but meh. Plus snes was the golden age of rpgs
Owned each one of those lol. Been hoping for an XBL port on Powerstone.
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Same, but I'd never buy a SNES game from a shop anymore. I mean I've got a ton of the old consoles, but the only old console I buy for is my Dreamcast because it's got no good emulators :/ Dreamcast was the best console ever. I need to find an emulator for Tech Romancer. Loved that game. It's in my top 3 consoles easily. Shenmue 1&2, Power Stone, Sonic Adventure 1&2, Skies of Arcadia, Chu Chu Rocket, Phantasy Star, Jet set radio, Ikaruga, Grandia 2, Crazy Taxi etc etc Piracy is wrong.
Reason: They're not real pirates. You Software pirates don't kill people! STOP CALLING YOURSELVES PIRATES!  yar
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I was hoping for a port on Shenmue, apparently Steam is starting to port old Sega games.
Oh that game was so good. And yeah a powerstone port on XBL would be godly. One of the best fighters ever, easily. The Dreamcast had such little popularity, but god-damn it was so good. I remember getting a keyboard for it and going online XD it was my first console to go online, and my mind was blown. Shenmue's unique gameplay and horrible voice acting are things I'll treasure always.
Ifrit.Keeria said: I only owned a small number of Dreamcast games before one of my brothers stole and "misplaced" it, but Shenmue 1+2, Grandia 2, and Skies of Arcadia are among them, and are all also among the best games I've played. I was happy to see Skies ported to the Gamecube (which I immediately bought and played), as well as Grandia 2 on the PS2, but Microsoft buying Shenmue and then doing nothing with it made me very sad. SoA is my favorite RPG ever (GC port was pretty crappy for a full retail cost though). I still need to finish Grandia 2, beat Melfice but my game freezes after the consecutive cut scenes. Shenmue needs to be finished, scrapping a trilogy after the 2nd game is so irritating since 2 was so much fun. Shiva.Flionheart said: I was hoping for a port on Shenmue, apparently Steam is starting to port old Sega games. Oh that game was so good. And yeah a powerstone port on XBL would be godly. One of the best fighters ever, easily. The Dreamcast had such little popularity, but god-damn it was so good. I remember getting a keyboard for it and going online XD it was my first console to go online, and my mind was blown. PSO? lol. Was my first MMO, I had crazy huge phone bills due to dial up back then. I liked Powerstone 2 more though. Was pretty nice of Sega to give out free copies of Chu Chu Rocket though. Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Ifrit.Keeria said: I only owned a small number of Dreamcast games before one of my brothers stole and "misplaced" it, but Shenmue 1+2, Grandia 2, and Skies of Arcadia are among them, and are all also among the best games I've played. I was happy to see Skies ported to the Gamecube (which I immediately bought and played), as well as Grandia 2 on the PS2, but Microsoft buying Shenmue and then doing nothing with it made me very sad. SoA is my favorite RPG ever (GC port was pretty crappy for a full retail cost though). I still need to finish Grandia 2, beat Melfice but my game freezes after the consecutive cut scenes. Shenmue needs to be finished, scrapping a trilogy after the 2nd game is so irritating since 2 was so much fun. As for Shenmue, I hated the Xbox for many years over that. >.> Had to import the European version just to play 2 without forking over a few hundred dollars for a new console. |
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